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The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  GothInk on Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:59 pm

Spiritual Evolution


Third density represents a vibrational reality or a state of mind that your planet has been expressing for several thousand years. The basis of this third-density expression is the idea of separation, which is the idea of not looking at reality holistically, but looking at it in part, seeing each other as separate, seeing the parts of yourselves as separate. Because of that idea of separation, you also view your connection to God as separate - "someone up there," an authority who can dictate your life - who's not you. This is a natural process of human evolution through which you will grow and evolve into the next stage which is where you are at now.
You are moving now into a fourth-density reality. Fourth density is characterized by reintegration. This means that you begin dissolving the boundaries, whether they are symbolic or literal, and that as those boundaries begin to dissolve you begin to see reality holistically ...



This planet has so far existed in the 3rd dimension, or 3rd density. "Dimension" is not necessarily used as equivalent to spatial dimensions here, but more as a frequency band, or level of reality.


3rd dimension is very physically oriented. The higher dimensions get less physical and more etheric. 4th dimension is still physical, but much more fluid than 3rd dimension. 5th dimension is non-physical. One of the best explanations I have heard of the difference between them goes like this: In the 3rd dimension, the way you get something to happen is like this:


Spirit -> Thought -> Emotion -> Effort -> Manifestation


That is, from a theta or spirit level one needs to intend for something to be in a certain way. One needs to somehow form the thought of it, or visualize what exactly is needed. Then one needs to feel the need for it, and the willingness to work at it. Then one needs to actually produce the physical effort needed to produce it. Then finally one gets the manifestation of one's desire.


In the 4th dimension we cut away one of the steps. It now goes like this:


Spirit -> Thought -> Emotion -> Manifestation


That means that the actual physical effort spent is no longer what is important. As soon as one really feels and expects something one can have it.


Swami Sevaratna comment: This is exactly what "The Law of Attraction" teaches us! The problem many people have with "The Law of Attraction" is they give up too quickly and/or don't put enough emotion and visualization into the process!


As far as I can observe and understand, this planet and most people on it have already entered the frequency spectrum of the 4th dimension. Things no longer have to take a lot of time and effort. It is how you feel and what you expect that will determine the outcome. If you have fear you will quickly get something to be fearful of. If you are excited you quickly get something to be excited about. As part of that, linear time is breaking up. Time spent becomes much less of an issue in getting a certain result. The world is shaped by feelings and expectations more than by physical efforts. As part of that, everybody's emotional issues come up to be processed. People who before succeeded in living secure, stable, superficial lives find that suddenly everything they swept under the carpet creeps up. Their fears suddenly materialize and they have to deal with them.


Now, in the 5th dimension it would work like this:


Spirit -> Thought -> Manifestation


That means, you think it, you get it. That is when thought postulates will actually work. In the 4th dimension postulates only work when you believe in them, and get in the mood for what they are about. In the 3rd dimension postulates only work if you act accordingly. But in the 5th dimension all you need to do is form the thought and you are there. Of course, people on this planet are now not ready for anything like that. Everybody would be walking around creating disasters if the mere thought of something made it real. But, if everybody had handled their case, had become complete people, actually in agreement with themselves, then it would be possible.


The 6th dimension would be like this:


Spirit -> Manifestation


That is, no need for thinking, no need for deciding what needs to be done. You just produce what is needed.


And I suppose the 7th dimension would be that:


Spirit=Manifestation


That is, pure beingness without any need for separation.


The target date for shifting the whole planet into the 5th dimension seems to be around 2012 or so. But not as a sudden thing, the frequency would be increased gradually up until that point.


Going further than that would be optional. The 5th dimensional shift is not optional, although each individual can choose to play the game or not. Most people who are here have very specifically chosen to be part of this game.


Now, none of this would happen automatically. Big off-planet forces are helping along the overall frequency increase of the planet. However, only each individual can do the actual processing needed to stay ahead of it.


It is kind of somebody is making the ground more and more hotter. If you stand still you will burn your feet. So, you better start dancing.


What will happen is that the people who resist the acceleration are going to go nuts. If they try to hold on frantically to their old ways the universe will make life more and more unbearable. Their hidden fears will come out and bite them in the nose, and if they keep noticing their own causativeness it will get worse. The end result would be to go insane and be totally unable to keep up with the environment.


So, anybody who just sits around and waits will pretty quickly be in hell. The only way of surviving is to process one's own stuff, move forward, become a more complete person, and reclaim one's own power.


Based on that necessity level large numbers of people are now going up some kind of bridge. That is, they are moving ahead in their personal development. Mostly people do that by dealing with what comes up in their lives. But also many more people are on the lookout for methods and bodies of knowledge that will help them keep ahead in the game.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  GothInk on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:30 pm

Germane: Greetings to everyone. This is Germane. We'd like to thank you all for coming this night. The title of session is "Fourth-Density Relationships". We would like to encourage you to feel free to ask any questions that are on your mind on the topic. We are going to start out by talking about the transformation from third to fourth density.

As you've heard us say many times, one of the characteristics of third density is separation. Whether it be separation from the God source, from each other, or separating aspects of yourselves within yourselves. This idea of separation has been necessary in third density to keep you in the third density experience. We are not saying in any way, shape or form, that the separation that you have been a part of on your world for the last several thousand years is in any way wrong, bad, negative. It is part of the experience that you have all chosen.

As you are moving from the 3D into the 4D reality, one of the main qualities of fourth density reality is integration, or reintegration. Therefore, the laws or premises that you have in 3D reality (based on separation) can no longer operate successfully in 4D. If you attempt to carry the premises and beliefs of separation into a 4D reality and refuse to let them go, you can literally tear yourself apart emotionally. A lot of what many of you are feeling in your own growth (whether it be relationships with lovers, family, friends or yourself) is almost a sense of urgency about letting go of certain things that have been carried for quite some time.

This feeling of urgency has to do with the idea, literally, that you are moving from one vibrational reality to another. The set of beliefs and premises that were operating in one reality cannot be sustained in the next. So you are feeling that desire to shift beliefs, to shift premises, and therefore shift the way you live. To some degree it is as if someone has handed you a tangled ball of yarn. There it is in your lap, you don't know where to start to untangle it. The only thing you can do is start where the easiest place is to start.

3D Relationships

Bringing this into the topic of relationships, the premises and beliefs of 3D (separation) were necessary to maintain 3D relationships. Let us share with you some of these principles.

Principles based on separation can be as follows:

Secrecy.

This has been a big one in your society. Secrecy is withholding information from your partner or from yourself. Secrecy does not just operate on the level of your interactions with others; secrecy keep you separated from the greater portion of yourself, as well. The idea of secrecy has been very important to maintain relationships in 3D reality, because it is an expression of separation.

Fear-based Monogamy.

Another expression of separation is the expression of what you would call monogamy, fear-based monogamy. We are not talking about monogamy by choice, we are talking about monogamy through fear. That has been an expression based on separation. The premise basically is that if you can get someone to commit to you, then you thus take yourself out of the flow of having to deal with relationships and you are safe. You are separate from the rest of the world. Separate and safe. This is monogamy based on fear.

Conditional Love.

Conditional love has been an expression which has been very vital to maintaining 3D-type relationships. Conditional love means that you will love someone only if they fulfill your needs or conditions that you set out. If they do not fill this, you will withdraw your love. There has been a noncomprehension in 3D reality of the meaning of unconditional love. When you are dealing from a separative framework, the only way you can view everything else is through that framework of separation. And so love therefore (the old definition of love in 3D) is love based on conditions.

Expectation.

This means that you go into a relationship with someone with expectations in your mind that maybe you are not even aware of. If you are aware of these expectations, you attempt to get the other person to fulfill those expectations. Again, the person is used to satisfy the need of the person seeking the relationship.

Manipulation.

This is another quality often inherent in 3D relationships. This can be very covert. It is overt in some cases, as well. However, in the classic 3D relationship there can be very deep-seated manipulation plays being done so that each person will get their needs fulfilled or will be protected from their fears. So often the idea of manipulation is carried out to protect you from your own fears. If you manipulate the other person, you can thus not feel your fear.

The Need to Control

The Need to Control is also a quality inherent in very solidly anchored 3D relationships. This is a mistrust in reality, that everything is happening the way it needs to be, or for your greater good. The need to control says you do not accept that idea. You thus must instead shape the relationship, force it, mold it, because you do not trust it will be what it needs to be by itself. We will stop here because there is literally a lot more we can say on this. It will come out later in the session. Let us go to the 4D idea.

4D Relationships

Since 4D is based on integration or reintegration, the characteristics that were once status quo in 3D relationships can no longer be sustained in 4D. Literally, the vibration cannot sustain separative ideas. Qualities inherent in 4D relationships would be:

Honesty (Non-Secrecy).

The couple or the unit must have, at all costs, honesty instead of secrecy. This means if you see in your friend or partner that they are doing something that is sabotaging to themselves or to the relationship that you speak that observation instead of withholding it (so you do not hurt the person's feelings), or so that you can continue to control them being in the relationship. Literally we are talking about polar opposites here. 3D is Secrecy, 4D is honesty. We cannot stress to you enough how important honesty is in a 4D relationship. If there is no honesty, there cannot be a continuation of that relationship in the 4D model. It is that crucial.

When we say honesty, we are also talking about honesty with the self. Many of you will at times keep things from yourself to keep you feeling safe. Within a 4D reality, it is very difficult to keep things from the self. You may wake up one morning, and you may suddenly realize that the relationship you are in no longer serves you. That must be recognized for the flow to continue. We are in no way saying, "You need to adopt these characteristics now!" Not at all. You will do this naturally. However, in this transition period now between 3D and 4D, you are being hit with qualities from both. As this happens, you will need to make some choices about how you wish to continue in your relationships. We will state that if you choose the integrative model (the 4D model) and you truly become that idea (not try to become it) you will not feel the pain of loss in any situation, in any relationship. You will only feel pain or loss if you are either in the 3D relationship, or deluding yourself into thinking you are in a 4D relationship. That will be when the pain of loss comes up. Again, we do want to stress to all of you that we are not saying you must do this, and you must move into 4D relationships. Not at all.

You have choices. You can make the choices. It is entirely up to you. However, we want to help illustrate for you the package deal you may be signing up for if you make certain choices. It is a package deal. If you make a choice based on separation (a 3D model), and then expect to live in a 4D relationship, it is not going to happen. Recognize where your choices are based. Make your continuing choices from there.

Let us go back to the qualities of 3D and 4D relationships. 3D relationships are based on secrecy and 4D on honesty; 3D based on conditional love and 4D based on unconditional love. Every being has the capability of experiencing more unconditional love than they ever have from moment to moment. There is never a limit to unconditional love. From this point, your experience of love has been 3D. Literally, you will need to build your own definitions of unconditional love because it can only be conceived of by experiencing it. We know you've heard definitions. We know that all of you can come up with definitions. But those definitions are partially intellectual. They are not yet 100% brought down to the emotions.

Unconditional Love

Unconditional love is another vital part of 4D relationships. That means loving someone with no conditions. If they don't fulfill your needs, you still love them. If they do not carry out your expectations, you still love them. You love them for being who they are without attempting to change them. It is an in-the-moment type of experience, whereas conditional love is always based on the past or future, not in the present. Unconditional love is based in the present.

Absolute Trust.

This is the opposite of the 3D quality of the Need to Control. There is no need or desire to control. It is not as if you must get up each day and say, "I must trust today." It is a beingness. When you wake up each day you are not worried about keeping your spirit in your body. You don't focus on that. It just happens. So, 4D is like that. The trust is there, it just happens. Control vs. trust.

Allowingness.

This is the opposite of manipulation. Allow. Allow the other person to be who they need to be. Because only then will you truly see, in fact, who they are. If you attempt to manipulate them, you never see who they really are. You see who you need them to be.

Relationships by Choice.

This is the opposite of Monogamy from Fear. This means that if you want monogamy, it is by conscious choice. If you want polygamy or polyfidelity, it is by conscious choice. It is perfectly acceptable for you to choose any of these things. All of these things are inherently neutral. They do not have a built in meaning. You ascribe them meaning by judgment. One is "better," one is "worse." All of these choices are neutral, any that you choose can work for you. However, if your conscious choice is to move into a 4D type relationship, you will not be able to do that if you keep holding on to any of the premises from 3D. They will need to be shifted and rearranged.

As you shift from a 3D to a 4D perspective, many people will in fact experience fear. Literally you are going through uncharted territory. You can't see necessarily what is over the next ridge. So it is frightening for a lot of people. That is perfectly fine. But if it is something you really want to pursue, let that fear be okay. When you come out on the other side of the ridge, you are going to realize that your identity is not based on another person. Your identity is based on you. You are the only one with whom you can rely on. You will feel that power, that clarity, and that liberation and release that comes form recognizing your own power.

It is really interesting, because in 3D type relationships (separation), you have the illusion of separation, but yet you create things that remind you that you are still all connected. For instance, humans use enmeshment in 3D to remind yourself you are still connected. However, the way you've interpreted the idea of connectedness has come out in a way that is detrimental to you rather than supportive. Enmeshment is the 3D version of connectedness in 4D. It really is a matter of the way you look at it. When you feel enmeshed with another person in your life and it hurts, stop for a minute. Take some deep breaths. Remind yourself that the enmeshment is there to remind you that you are never separate from the other person ultimately. Separation is an illusion. No matter how far away you go, you are not separate from the person. If you can begin to emotionally heal the fear that you will no longer be with a person, you are going to start to feel the sense of connectedness that will then replace the 3D enmeshment idea. You will no longer need to create fear through enmeshment. You will thus create connectedness through your expressions in all of your relationships. Many of the dysfunctional symptoms in 3D are your way of reminding yourself of some of the qualities of 4D relationships. But they are translated through the veil of separation. So they come out a little askew. However, they are there as reminders and tools. They are there to help you ease the pain in your interactions with others.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Seven, the Rogue Guru on Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:29 am

*Sigh.*

I dread having to say this, but my Sagittarius Moon is pushing me hard to speak the truth.

This information looks and sounds good; I seem to agree with it; but I must only agree with 99% of it because something in it has been ringing my inner alarm bell. I haven't been able to figure out exactly what that is, but I think now I see at least one problem with it clearly enough to speak about it...

Literally, you will need to build your own definitions of unconditional love because it can only be conceived of by experiencing it. We know you've heard definitions. We know that all of you can come up with definitions. But those definitions are partially intellectual. They are not yet 100% brought down to the emotions.


Here is a concept I know to be flawed: that we should discard intellect in favor of the emotions, that emotions are somehow "more right" or "more advanced" than the intellect. Where is the "integration" in that attitude? As I understand things, true "integration" -- true inner balance -- would be characterized by harmonius interaction of the emotions and intellect, in equal measure.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:08 am

Thumbs up I agree Seven, emotion and intellect are two equal parts of our human-ness. True balance requires favoring not one over the other.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  GothInk on Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:00 pm

Both valid and good comments. However, I'd like to propose that there are some instances where one is more useful than another and to the balance of how much of either is in use can affect the outcome of the experience. I am not saying that one is more important than the other, just that they can be used in different proportions to achieve different goals. For example, scientific thought relies more heavily on the use of logic and less on emotions. Whereas say, being compassionate towards someone in pain would require a greater emotional application than logic.


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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Seven, the Rogue Guru on Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:22 pm

Yep, good point. Thumbs up Context is everything.

I was just looking at how most of us lean more toward one side or the other, overall, in general... and reflecting that being too far in one direction is an unhealthy imbalance. You know us Libras -- always keeping an eye on the balance of things.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:35 am

This is a topic that lies so very close to my heart. I have been unbalanced in favour of emotions for the greater part of my life. It has only been for a short time that I seesawed in the opposite direction enough to discover that it was not creating a desirable effect.
I am still partial to emotion, it is so lovely and fulfilling, I will never be able to sway from my cancerian nature, however, attending to logic and the mind has become a very important facet of life for me.
I guess what I am trying to say is, no matter who you are, where you have come from, what you were raised to think and who you believe you are or may become, BALANCE IS THE KEY. And it always will be.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:38 am

Am I off track? Or is this what the shift from 3D to 4D means?

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:53 am

This is an interesting topic. For a lot of people, the shift from 3rd dimensional reality to 4th dimensional reality involves going through the astral or shadow side of their personality. For the average person this shift can be quite confronting if not down-right terrifying. How can we ourselves continue with this transition and also be of benefit to others on this, for want of a better word, journey? We are all teachers. We teach others and ourselves also. We learn and express. This is the shift. YOU are the shift.

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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:20 am

The shift is not global, it occus in increments. Perhaps the hundreth monkey analogy may be true... but humanity has been hoping for this for a long long time. Quite a few thousand years.
No-one has answers for anything. Many many many have educated, uneducated, hopeful, tapped into, universal, essence-of-earth, pagan, thought-up, passed-along, wordof-mouth, literate-based ideas and basically, all it means is COME UP WITH YOUR OWN TRUTH. This is the state we are living through - the shift. Whether you live in the bush, surrounded by trees, or live in a town that is small enough to know everyones business or in a city where you keep to yourself and dont give a rats behind. This is where the shift is occuring.
So may I ask a favour?
Could we keep this site practical? I am going to advertise it to my friends that could benefit from teachers. PLEASE be teachers and not a cliquey site. PLEASE, PLEASE. I beg you.

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Post  Seven, the Rogue Guru on Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:07 pm

I'm having a good laugh right now because when you say "COME UP WITH YOUR OWN TRUTH" you sound a lot like someone else I know. Smile

Is there something about the site you find impractical?

As far as cliques go, I don't think we even have enough members yet for those to start forming...

I'll just say this:

Customized "truth", impracticality, and clique mentality are three of my least favorite things.

I recognize the supreme importance of accepting the Truth even -- especially -- when I find it personally inconvenient.

I demand that any truth I take on as "wisdom" have a practical application, because, as far as I can tell, I'm still a human being manifesting on the physical plane.

I perceive it as detrimental to exclude others as a means of bolstering one's inadequate ego.

"Thus spake Seven," LOL... Grin


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Re: The Shift from 3rd to 4th Dimension

Post  Faith on Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:46 pm

Rogue, I don't think I made myself very clear in my post. I haven't found this site or anything posted impractical in any way. Sorry if my writings came across that way. Unfortunately, I have had the experience of being on other forums that did contain impractical content and that were downright cliquey to boot. I guess what came out in my words was my own fear and judgement. For that I humbly apologize. Thanks also for your reply - Laugh I'm laughing at myself now also. Goodness gracious, my ego went on a bit of a rant didn't it. I mustn't have been giving it the chance to express itself enough lately. Yeah, right

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